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John Dodd
Kew, London, 1752–1839
John Dodd (1752-1839) was an eminent English bow maker, often referred to as the 'English Tourte'. Trained initially as a gun-lock fitter, he applied his engineering skills to revolutionize bow design, developing key elements of the modern bow concurrently with François Tourte. His craftsmanship evolved from early 'axe head' designs to sophisticated modern forms, utilizing materials like tortoiseshell and employing a unique method of cutting bows directly from curved blocks. Despite his significant innovations and the high quality of his best work, his output was sometimes inconsistent, and his bows were occasionally shorter than ideal. He was the pupil of his father, Edward Dodd (I), but famously refused to take on apprentices or reveal his bow-making secrets, even in poverty. Dodd's reputation was later challenged by widespread imitations, yet his genuine bows remain highly prized. He died in the Richmond Workhouse in diminished circumstances.
Auction price history
Highest auction price
| Type | Details | Sold | Price |
|---|---|---|---|
| Violin Bow | Silver mounted, round stick overstamped J. Tubbs, stamped to the frog Dodd | February 2024 | £7,052 |
| Cello Bow | March 2012 | £4,375 | |
| Viola Bow | October 2011 | £8,500 | |
| Viola Bow | S/E 69 g. | October 2011 | £8,500 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 60 g. Kew , 1820 c. (adjuster later) | October 2011 | £2,750 |
| Cello Bow | Ivory 73 g. | October 2011 | £2,070 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 83 g. | September 2011 | £5,400 |
| Violin Bow | Ivory 47 g. 1775 c. swan head, no lapping | June 2011 | £10,200 |
| Violin Bow | 37 g. no hair, no mounts | June 2011 | £960 |
| Cello Bow | Ebony 77 g. 1790 c. sparce hair, no lapping [Probably by] | June 2011 | £3,120 |
| Cello Bow | Ivory 69 g. London, 1780 c. sparce hair, no lapping | June 2011 | £2,160 |
| Cello Bow | S/I 72 g. London, 1795 c. sparce hair, no lapping [Probably by] | June 2011 | £1,800 |
| Viola Bow | S/I 56 g. London, 1800 c. without lapping or hair | March 2011 | £4,375 |
| Violin Bow | 55 g. | March 2011 | £2,640 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 81 g. | December 2010 | £10,200 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 84 g. (button later, slight damage to shaft) | December 2010 | £1,320 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 58 g. | October 2010 | £2,400 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 84 g. | June 2010 | £1,800 |
| Viola Bow | S/E 67.0 g. | April 2010 | £7,807 |
| Cello Bow | 72.0 g. (frog & button not original) [Probably by] | April 2010 | £3,142 |
| Violin Bow | Ivory 52.5 g. Open trench | April 2010 | £3,339 |
| Violin Bow | Ivory 44.5 g. 1800 c. Open trench, Baroque camber, without hair [Probably by] | April 2010 | £3,732 |
| Violin Bow | S/I 55.5 g. 1820 c. | April 2010 | £5,499 |
| Cello Bow | Ivory 84 g. | December 2009 | £2,880 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 67.0 g. (frog & button not original) | October 2009 | £2,224 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 62 g. England, 1830 c. | October 2009 | £2,374 |
| Violin Bow | Ivory 55.5 g. London, 1800 c. | October 2009 | £2,000 |
| Violin Bow | G/E 59 g. | October 2009 | £1,553 |
| Violin Bow | G/T 59 g. | October 2009 | £3,220 |
| Violin Bow | 40 g. | June 2009 | £519 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 55 g. leather wrapping | March 2009 | £1,200 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 58 g. cloth wrapping | March 2009 | £576 |
| Viola Bow | S/E 67 g. Kew, 1820 c. (frog possibly later, button later) | March 2009 | £2,750 |
| Viola Bow | S/E 64.5 g. (frog later) | December 2008 | £3,583 |
| Violin Bow | Ivory 53 g. | November 2008 | £1,800 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 77 g. Kew, 1820 c. (later mounts by "W.E. Hill & Sons") | October 2008 | £3,750 |
| Cello Bow | Ivory 83.5 g. Open trench, sold with modern replacement frog & button | May 2008 | £4,485 |
| Cello Bow | S/I 81.5 g. (frog & button later English replacements) | May 2008 | £5,094 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 57.0 g. 1860 c. [Probably by] | March 2008 | £1,521 |
| Cello Bow | Ivory 76.5 g. London, 1820 c. stamped "Kennedy", [Lit: The Cooper Collection] | March 2008 | £3,250 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 68 g. London, 1820 c. [Lit: The Cooper Collection] | March 2008 | £5,625 |
| Viola Bow | S/I 65.5 g. London, 1820 c. [Lit: The Cooper Collection] | March 2008 | £4,375 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 62 g. London, 1820 c. [Lit: The Cooper Collection] | March 2008 | £7,500 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 59 g. London, early 19th C. (later adjustor) [Probably by] | March 2008 | £1,000 |
| Violin Bow | S/I 62 g. London, 1820 c. [Lit: The Cooper Collection] | March 2008 | £3,000 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 61 g. London, early 19th C. [Probably by] [Lit: The Cooper Collection] | March 2008 | £2,250 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 57 g. London, 1820 c., made for "George Corsby" [Probably by] | March 2008 | £2,000 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 53 g. 1810 c. | December 2007 | £1,082 |
| Cello Bow | Ivory 88.5 Kew, 1820 c. Open frog | October 2007 | £4,750 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 84 g. | October 2007 | £1,059 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 53 g. 1810 c. | October 2007 | £612 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 62 g. [Ascirbed to] | May 2007 | £1,414 |
| Viola Bow | --/E 71.5 g. Kew, 1820 c. (ebony cello frog, later button by "W.E. Hill & Sons") | November 2006 | £1,320 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 51.0 g. | October 2006 | £1,478 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 65.5 g. Kew, early 19th C. (Frog & Button possibly by "J. Lafleur") [Probably by] | July 2006 | £1,680 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 54.5 g. Kew, 1820 c. (later frog & button by "J. Tubbs") | July 2006 | £1,320 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 63.0 g. | May 2006 | £4,905 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 80.5 g. London, 1810 c. | February 2006 | £5,760 |
| Cello Bow | Ivory 77 g. London, 1820 c. Open frog | February 2006 | £3,360 |
| Bass Bow | 144 g. [featured in Christopher Brown's book] | June 2005 | £4,114 |
| Cello Bow | Ivory 79 g. Open frog | April 2005 | £3,760 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 81 g. | February 2005 | £3,360 |
| Violin Bow | G/E 58 g. | February 2005 | £4,200 |
| Violin Bow | Ivory 59.5 g. Open frog | February 2005 | £2,040 |
| Violin Bow | Ivory 56.5 g. Open frog | February 2005 | £1,080 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 81.0 g. | October 2004 | £4,135 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 82 g. [Attributed to] | October 2004 | £2,158 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 60 g. | October 2004 | £1,926 |
| Violin Bow | Ivory 57.5 g. (later adjustor) | July 2004 | £1,680 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 88 g. 1800 c. made for "Forester" [Probably by] | March 2004 | £4,200 |
| Violin Bow | S/T 59 g. | November 2003 | £3,600 |
| Violin Bow | S/I 62 g. | November 2003 | £3,120 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 59 g. | October 2002 | £1,959 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 80 g. | June 2002 | £4,811 |
| Cello Bow | S/I 75 g. | March 2002 | £1,800 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 84 g. | November 2001 | £7,000 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 58 g. | October 2001 | £2,837 |
| Cello Bow | G/E 87 g. | June 2001 | £1,570 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 58 g. | March 2001 | £940 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 61 g. | November 2000 | £2,585 |
| Violin Bow | S/I 62 g. | October 2000 | £2,215 |
| Violin Bow | E/E 46 g. | July 2000 | £480 |
| Violin Bow | G/E 53 g. | May 2000 | £1,718 |
| Viola Bow | S/E 66 g. | June 1999 | £1,800 |
| Violin Bow | S/I 60 g. | April 1999 | £3,577 |
| Violin Bow | S/I 60 g. | April 1999 | £1,145 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 77 g. | March 1999 | £4,600 |
| Cello Bow | Ivory 85 g. | June 1998 | £3,335 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 79 g. Open frog | February 1998 | £1,559 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 58 g. | June 1997 | £1,840 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 90 g. | March 1997 | £2,990 |
| Violin Bow | G/E 55 g. | June 1996 | £3,910 |
| Cello Bow | Ivory 85 g. | October 1995 | £1,265 |
| Violin Bow | Ivory 54 g. | October 1995 | £805 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 56 g. | May 1995 | £862 |
| Violin Bow | G/E 54 g. | May 1995 | £1,581 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 52 g. | October 1994 | £690 |
| Cello Bow | S/E 82 g. | June 1994 | £4,600 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 61 g. | May 1994 | £1,855 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 62 g. | March 1993 | £977 |
| Violin Bow | S/E 55 g. | March 1993 | £747 |
| Viola Bow | S/E 68 g. | November 1990 | £1,430 |
| Cello Bow | S/I 84 g. | June 1990 | £1,980 |
| Viola Bow | S/E 69 g. | September 1987 | £1,650 |
| Viola Bow | S/I -- g. | March 1983 | £572 |
Maker Overview
Life
John Dodd (1752-1839) was born in Stirling, Scotland, and died in 1839 in the Richmond Workhouse, being buried at Kew, London. He was the eldest son of Edward Dodd (I). John Dodd initially trained as a gun-lock fitter and later worked as a money-scale maker before finding his true vocation in bow making. He began working in London around 1780 and was recorded in trade directories by 1794 as a bow maker at 10 Gray's Walk, Lambeth. He moved to 11 Lower Row, Lambeth, in 1796, and by 1803, he had settled in Kew, Surrey. Sources contain conflicting information about his London residence, with Lütgendorff stating he lived on New Street, Covent Garden. Despite his significant contributions to bow making, he died in very diminished circumstances in the Richmond Workhouse. William Meredith Morris notes that his intemperate habits caused him many troubles, and he often faced starvation, saved by the kindness of Dr. Selle and Mr. Richard Platt of Richmond.
Characteristics
- Reputation
- John Dodd is widely known as the 'English Tourte', a title that much of his work justifies, placing him in high regard alongside his French contemporary, François Tourte.
- Workmanship
- While his bows are considered excellent, his workmanship was less consistent than Tourte's, and his tendency to make bows a little short has placed him on a slightly lower rung of importance.
- Innovation
- Dodd developed many key elements of the modern bow concurrently with Tourte. His early training as a gun-lock fitter, similar to Tourte's experience as a watchmaker, provided him with the fine engineering skills necessary to produce the superior screw-adjusting mechanisms for bows.
- Evolution of Design
- His work evolved from early forms featuring 'axe head' shapes with an extended rear lip and no facing, and ivory frogs often lacking slides, to fully developed modern bows incorporating all the furnishings of a slide, face, ferrule, and ebony frog.
- Materials
- Dodd was one of the first to use tortoiseshell for the frog, and his bows are noted for being made of magnificent wood.
- Construction Method
- 's method of cutting bows was primitive and unique; he cut the bow in its curved form directly from the block, eschewing the common practice of cutting it straight and bending it by heat.
- Branding and Imitation
- Dodd's bows bear clear brands on both the frog and the stick, but these marks were widely imitated. He supplied many other makers and dealers, such as Betts, Forster, J. & H. Banks, and Norris & Barnes, whose brands are often found superimposed on his work.
- Stick Types
- He produced both octagonal and round sticks.
- Specific Example
- William Meredith Morris describes a fine specimen in the possession of the Rev. J. Rhys Jones, which features a graceful camber and good balance, measuring exactly 28 1/4 inches in length with a hair length of 25 1/8 inches. This bow is of medium weight, very dark in color, with the face of the heel decorated with mother-of-pearl and thick silver ferrules.
Influence and legacy
- Mentorship: John Dodd was the pupil of his father, Edward Dodd (I), and significantly improved upon his father's work.
- Teaching Philosophy: He never took on pupils, preferring to keep his bow-making secrets to himself. It is claimed that he refused an offer of £1,000 for the disclosure of his method, even when he was in great poverty.
- Final Years: Despite his significant contributions to bow making, John Dodd died in the Richmond Workhouse in 1839.
- Reputation Challenges: His fame suffered considerably in the mid-19th century due to the widespread stamping of his name on many inferior bows, leading to hundreds of 'mongrel Dodds' in circulation.
- Enduring Value: A genuine Dodd bow of regulation length and made in his best style is considered a valuable treasure.
Biographies
The overview above is drawn from the following published accounts. Read them in the original:
John Dilworth+
DODD, John Born 1752, died 1839 Kew, London UK. Bow maker. Eldest son of Edward Dodd (I), above. Trained as a gun-lock fitter. Worked in London from c.1780; recorded in trade directories in 1794 as a bow maker at 10 Gray’s Walk, Lambeth. Moved to 11 Lower Row, Lambeth 1796, and by 1803 was settled in Kew, Surrey. Died in Richmond Workhouse in very diminished circumstances. Known as the ‘English Tourte’, he developed many of the key elements of the modern bow at about the same time as Tourte in France, but his workmanship was less consistent, and his tendency to make his bows a little short has placed him on a slightly lower rung of importance than Tourte. Tourte had an early training as a watch maker, and for both men, their experience with fine engineering provided them with the skills to produce the screw-adjusting mechanisms which helped make their bows so superior. His work developed from early forms having ‘axe head’ shapes, with an extended rear lip and no facing, and ivory frogs (often subsequently replaced) lacking slides, to the fully developed modern bows with all the furnishings of slide, face, ferrule, and ebony frog. Some are highly ornate, even bejewelled, and Dodd was one of the first to use tortoiseshell for the frog. Dodd’s bows bear clear brands on the frog and stick, but this is widely imitated. He supplied many other makers and dealers, and their brands are often superimposed on his; Betts, Forster, J. & H. Banks, and Norris & Barnes marks can all be found. Both octagonal and round sticks made.
William Meredith Morris+
He was born in Stirling, died in Richmond workhouse, and was buried at Kew. He is styled ” The English Tourte,” and much of his work justifies the title. Had he lived a more virtuous life, he probably would have turned out work of uniform excellence. Many of his bows were evidently made in haste, and sold for a few shillings, to meet the exigencies of an empty cupboard and a parching thirst. His intemperate habit was the cause of many troubles to himself, and to others who interested themselves on his behalf, and he came nigh the last stage of starvation many a time. Had it not been for the kindly offices of Dr. Selle and Mr. Richard Platt, of Richmond, he would have ended his days on the roadside ; as it was, he ended them in the workhouse.
He was the pupil of his father, the Edward Dodd previously noticed, and he improved so much upon the work of his father, and upon everything else in the whole of the violin world (excepting the work of his greater contemporary, Francois Tourte), that his bows have maintained an undiminished celebrity down to our own days. His method of cutting his bows was primitive, and it has not been adopted by any great maker since his time. He cut the bow in the curved form out of the block, and dispensed with the ordinary plan of cutting it straight and bending by heat. I have seen a large number of Dodd bows, and I am convinced from a close examination of them that they have all been cut in this manner. One of the finest specimens which I have seen is now in the possession of the Rev. J. Rhys Jones, Priest-in-charge, Maesteg, Glamorganshire. It is a fine stick, with a graceful camhre and good balance. Its length is exactly 28 1/4in., and the length of the hair 25 1/8in. It is of medium weight, and very dark in colour. The face of the heel is decorated with mother-of-pearl, and the ferrules are of thick silver. Dodd’s name was stamped on all sorts of wretched nondescripts in the middle of last century, and his fame suffered considerably in consequence. But his work has suffered more than his fame, for there are hundreds of mongrel “Dodds”” about, some with genuine heels, others with genuine heads, and not a few patched up in divers manners. The owner of a genuine Dodd, of regulation length, or anything near it, and made in his best style, has a treasure that he can well be proud of.
Cecie Stainer+
Eldest son of Edward Dodd ; b. 1752, Stirling; d. Oct. 4, 1839, in Richmond Workhouse; was buried at Kew. He was first a gun-lock fitter, then a money-scale maker, and finally found his true vocation in making bows. They are made of magnificent wood and the work is so beautiful that he is known as ‘ The English Tourte”; their only defect is that they are sometimes too short. He would never take pupils, preferring to keep secret his method of cutting the wood, and refused to reveal it for a bribe of £1,000, although he was often in great poverty.
Willibald Leo Lütgendorff+
Dieser ausgezeichnete Bogenmacher, der zuerst Büchsenschlosser und dann
Goldwaagenmacher war, steht in England in gleichem Ansehen wie Fr. Tourte
in Frankreich. Seine Bögen sind ebenso gut wie die seines französischen
Rivalen, wenn er auch ihre Eleganz nicht erreicht. Er war der älteste Sohn
von Edward D. und Bruder von Thomas D. und wohnte New street, Covent
Garden. Seine Stangen haben vielleicht den einzigen Fehler, nicht immer lang
genug zu sein. Trotzdem brachte er es im Leben nicht vorwärts und starb
als 87jähriger Greis im Armenasyl (workhouse) zu Richmond. Er hatte nie
einen Schüler, da er seine Geheimnisse des Bogenmachens nicht verrathen
wollte; er soll sogar, wie behauptet wird, trotz seiner Armuth ein Angebot von
1000 Pf. Sterling für die Preisgabe seines Geheimnisses abgelehnt haben.
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