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John Dodd

Kew, London, 1752–1839

John Dodd (1752-1839) was an eminent English bow maker, often referred to as the 'English Tourte'. Trained initially as a gun-lock fitter, he applied his engineering skills to revolutionize bow design, developing key elements of the modern bow concurrently with François Tourte. His craftsmanship evolved from early 'axe head' designs to sophisticated modern forms, utilizing materials like tortoiseshell and employing a unique method of cutting bows directly from curved blocks. Despite his significant innovations and the high quality of his best work, his output was sometimes inconsistent, and his bows were occasionally shorter than ideal. He was the pupil of his father, Edward Dodd (I), but famously refused to take on apprentices or reveal his bow-making secrets, even in poverty. Dodd's reputation was later challenged by widespread imitations, yet his genuine bows remain highly prized. He died in the Richmond Workhouse in diminished circumstances.

Worked Kew, London
Made Bass Bow, Cello Bow, Viola Bow, Violin Bow

Auction price history

Highest auction price

£10,200
Type Details Sold Price
Violin Bow Silver mounted, round stick overstamped J. Tubbs, stamped to the frog Dodd February 2024 £7,052
Cello Bow March 2012 £4,375
Viola Bow October 2011 £8,500
Viola Bow S/E 69 g. October 2011 £8,500
Violin Bow S/E 60 g. Kew , 1820 c. (adjuster later) October 2011 £2,750
Cello Bow Ivory 73 g. October 2011 £2,070
Cello Bow S/E 83 g. September 2011 £5,400
Violin Bow Ivory 47 g. 1775 c. swan head, no lapping June 2011 £10,200
Violin Bow 37 g. no hair, no mounts June 2011 £960
Cello Bow Ebony 77 g. 1790 c. sparce hair, no lapping [Probably by] June 2011 £3,120
Cello Bow Ivory 69 g. London, 1780 c. sparce hair, no lapping June 2011 £2,160
Cello Bow S/I 72 g. London, 1795 c. sparce hair, no lapping [Probably by] June 2011 £1,800
Viola Bow S/I 56 g. London, 1800 c. without lapping or hair March 2011 £4,375
Violin Bow 55 g. March 2011 £2,640
Cello Bow S/E 81 g. December 2010 £10,200
Cello Bow S/E 84 g. (button later, slight damage to shaft) December 2010 £1,320
Violin Bow S/E 58 g. October 2010 £2,400
Cello Bow S/E 84 g. June 2010 £1,800
Viola Bow S/E 67.0 g. April 2010 £7,807
Cello Bow 72.0 g. (frog & button not original) [Probably by] April 2010 £3,142
Violin Bow Ivory 52.5 g. Open trench April 2010 £3,339
Violin Bow Ivory 44.5 g. 1800 c. Open trench, Baroque camber, without hair [Probably by] April 2010 £3,732
Violin Bow S/I 55.5 g. 1820 c. April 2010 £5,499
Cello Bow Ivory 84 g. December 2009 £2,880
Violin Bow S/E 67.0 g. (frog & button not original) October 2009 £2,224
Violin Bow S/E 62 g. England, 1830 c. October 2009 £2,374
Violin Bow Ivory 55.5 g. London, 1800 c. October 2009 £2,000
Violin Bow G/E 59 g. October 2009 £1,553
Violin Bow G/T 59 g. October 2009 £3,220
Violin Bow 40 g. June 2009 £519
Violin Bow S/E 55 g. leather wrapping March 2009 £1,200
Violin Bow S/E 58 g. cloth wrapping March 2009 £576
Viola Bow S/E 67 g. Kew, 1820 c. (frog possibly later, button later) March 2009 £2,750
Viola Bow S/E 64.5 g. (frog later) December 2008 £3,583
Violin Bow Ivory 53 g. November 2008 £1,800
Cello Bow S/E 77 g. Kew, 1820 c. (later mounts by "W.E. Hill & Sons") October 2008 £3,750
Cello Bow Ivory 83.5 g. Open trench, sold with modern replacement frog & button May 2008 £4,485
Cello Bow S/I 81.5 g. (frog & button later English replacements) May 2008 £5,094
Violin Bow S/E 57.0 g. 1860 c. [Probably by] March 2008 £1,521
Cello Bow Ivory 76.5 g. London, 1820 c. stamped "Kennedy", [Lit: The Cooper Collection] March 2008 £3,250
Cello Bow S/E 68 g. London, 1820 c. [Lit: The Cooper Collection] March 2008 £5,625
Viola Bow S/I 65.5 g. London, 1820 c. [Lit: The Cooper Collection] March 2008 £4,375
Violin Bow S/E 62 g. London, 1820 c. [Lit: The Cooper Collection] March 2008 £7,500
Violin Bow S/E 59 g. London, early 19th C. (later adjustor) [Probably by] March 2008 £1,000
Violin Bow S/I 62 g. London, 1820 c. [Lit: The Cooper Collection] March 2008 £3,000
Violin Bow S/E 61 g. London, early 19th C. [Probably by] [Lit: The Cooper Collection] March 2008 £2,250
Violin Bow S/E 57 g. London, 1820 c., made for "George Corsby" [Probably by] March 2008 £2,000
Violin Bow S/E 53 g. 1810 c. December 2007 £1,082
Cello Bow Ivory 88.5 Kew, 1820 c. Open frog October 2007 £4,750
Cello Bow S/E 84 g. October 2007 £1,059
Violin Bow S/E 53 g. 1810 c. October 2007 £612
Violin Bow S/E 62 g. [Ascirbed to] May 2007 £1,414
Viola Bow --/E 71.5 g. Kew, 1820 c. (ebony cello frog, later button by "W.E. Hill & Sons") November 2006 £1,320
Violin Bow S/E 51.0 g. October 2006 £1,478
Violin Bow S/E 65.5 g. Kew, early 19th C. (Frog & Button possibly by "J. Lafleur") [Probably by] July 2006 £1,680
Violin Bow S/E 54.5 g. Kew, 1820 c. (later frog & button by "J. Tubbs") July 2006 £1,320
Violin Bow S/E 63.0 g. May 2006 £4,905
Cello Bow S/E 80.5 g. London, 1810 c. February 2006 £5,760
Cello Bow Ivory 77 g. London, 1820 c. Open frog February 2006 £3,360
Bass Bow 144 g. [featured in Christopher Brown's book] June 2005 £4,114
Cello Bow Ivory 79 g. Open frog April 2005 £3,760
Cello Bow S/E 81 g. February 2005 £3,360
Violin Bow G/E 58 g. February 2005 £4,200
Violin Bow Ivory 59.5 g. Open frog February 2005 £2,040
Violin Bow Ivory 56.5 g. Open frog February 2005 £1,080
Cello Bow S/E 81.0 g. October 2004 £4,135
Cello Bow S/E 82 g. [Attributed to] October 2004 £2,158
Violin Bow S/E 60 g. October 2004 £1,926
Violin Bow Ivory 57.5 g. (later adjustor) July 2004 £1,680
Cello Bow S/E 88 g. 1800 c. made for "Forester" [Probably by] March 2004 £4,200
Violin Bow S/T 59 g. November 2003 £3,600
Violin Bow S/I 62 g. November 2003 £3,120
Violin Bow S/E 59 g. October 2002 £1,959
Cello Bow S/E 80 g. June 2002 £4,811
Cello Bow S/I 75 g. March 2002 £1,800
Cello Bow S/E 84 g. November 2001 £7,000
Violin Bow S/E 58 g. October 2001 £2,837
Cello Bow G/E 87 g. June 2001 £1,570
Violin Bow S/E 58 g. March 2001 £940
Violin Bow S/E 61 g. November 2000 £2,585
Violin Bow S/I 62 g. October 2000 £2,215
Violin Bow E/E 46 g. July 2000 £480
Violin Bow G/E 53 g. May 2000 £1,718
Viola Bow S/E 66 g. June 1999 £1,800
Violin Bow S/I 60 g. April 1999 £3,577
Violin Bow S/I 60 g. April 1999 £1,145
Cello Bow S/E 77 g. March 1999 £4,600
Cello Bow Ivory 85 g. June 1998 £3,335
Cello Bow S/E 79 g. Open frog February 1998 £1,559
Violin Bow S/E 58 g. June 1997 £1,840
Cello Bow S/E 90 g. March 1997 £2,990
Violin Bow G/E 55 g. June 1996 £3,910
Cello Bow Ivory 85 g. October 1995 £1,265
Violin Bow Ivory 54 g. October 1995 £805
Violin Bow S/E 56 g. May 1995 £862
Violin Bow G/E 54 g. May 1995 £1,581
Violin Bow S/E 52 g. October 1994 £690
Cello Bow S/E 82 g. June 1994 £4,600
Violin Bow S/E 61 g. May 1994 £1,855
Violin Bow S/E 62 g. March 1993 £977
Violin Bow S/E 55 g. March 1993 £747
Viola Bow S/E 68 g. November 1990 £1,430
Cello Bow S/I 84 g. June 1990 £1,980
Viola Bow S/E 69 g. September 1987 £1,650
Viola Bow S/I -- g. March 1983 £572

Maker Overview

Life

John Dodd (1752-1839) was born in Stirling, Scotland, and died in 1839 in the Richmond Workhouse, being buried at Kew, London. He was the eldest son of Edward Dodd (I). John Dodd initially trained as a gun-lock fitter and later worked as a money-scale maker before finding his true vocation in bow making. He began working in London around 1780 and was recorded in trade directories by 1794 as a bow maker at 10 Gray's Walk, Lambeth. He moved to 11 Lower Row, Lambeth, in 1796, and by 1803, he had settled in Kew, Surrey. Sources contain conflicting information about his London residence, with Lütgendorff stating he lived on New Street, Covent Garden. Despite his significant contributions to bow making, he died in very diminished circumstances in the Richmond Workhouse. William Meredith Morris notes that his intemperate habits caused him many troubles, and he often faced starvation, saved by the kindness of Dr. Selle and Mr. Richard Platt of Richmond.

Characteristics

Reputation
John Dodd is widely known as the 'English Tourte', a title that much of his work justifies, placing him in high regard alongside his French contemporary, François Tourte.
Workmanship
While his bows are considered excellent, his workmanship was less consistent than Tourte's, and his tendency to make bows a little short has placed him on a slightly lower rung of importance.
Innovation
Dodd developed many key elements of the modern bow concurrently with Tourte. His early training as a gun-lock fitter, similar to Tourte's experience as a watchmaker, provided him with the fine engineering skills necessary to produce the superior screw-adjusting mechanisms for bows.
Evolution of Design
His work evolved from early forms featuring 'axe head' shapes with an extended rear lip and no facing, and ivory frogs often lacking slides, to fully developed modern bows incorporating all the furnishings of a slide, face, ferrule, and ebony frog.
Materials
Dodd was one of the first to use tortoiseshell for the frog, and his bows are noted for being made of magnificent wood.
Construction Method
's method of cutting bows was primitive and unique; he cut the bow in its curved form directly from the block, eschewing the common practice of cutting it straight and bending it by heat.
Branding and Imitation
Dodd's bows bear clear brands on both the frog and the stick, but these marks were widely imitated. He supplied many other makers and dealers, such as Betts, Forster, J. & H. Banks, and Norris & Barnes, whose brands are often found superimposed on his work.
Stick Types
He produced both octagonal and round sticks.
Specific Example
William Meredith Morris describes a fine specimen in the possession of the Rev. J. Rhys Jones, which features a graceful camber and good balance, measuring exactly 28 1/4 inches in length with a hair length of 25 1/8 inches. This bow is of medium weight, very dark in color, with the face of the heel decorated with mother-of-pearl and thick silver ferrules.

Influence and legacy

  • Mentorship: John Dodd was the pupil of his father, Edward Dodd (I), and significantly improved upon his father's work.
  • Teaching Philosophy: He never took on pupils, preferring to keep his bow-making secrets to himself. It is claimed that he refused an offer of £1,000 for the disclosure of his method, even when he was in great poverty.
  • Final Years: Despite his significant contributions to bow making, John Dodd died in the Richmond Workhouse in 1839.
  • Reputation Challenges: His fame suffered considerably in the mid-19th century due to the widespread stamping of his name on many inferior bows, leading to hundreds of 'mongrel Dodds' in circulation.
  • Enduring Value: A genuine Dodd bow of regulation length and made in his best style is considered a valuable treasure.
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Biographies

The overview above is drawn from the following published accounts. Read them in the original:

John Dilworth+

DODD, John Born 1752, died 1839 Kew, London UK. Bow maker. Eldest son of Edward Dodd (I), above. Trained as a gun-lock fitter. Worked in London from c.1780; recorded in trade directories in 1794 as a bow maker at 10 Gray’s Walk, Lambeth. Moved to 11 Lower Row, Lambeth 1796, and by 1803 was settled in Kew, Surrey. Died in Richmond Workhouse in very diminished circumstances. Known as the ‘English Tourte’, he developed many of the key elements of the modern bow at about the same time as Tourte in France, but his workmanship was less consistent, and his tendency to make his bows a little short has placed him on a slightly lower rung of importance than Tourte. Tourte had an early training as a watch maker, and for both men, their experience with fine engineering provided them with the skills to produce the screw-adjusting mechanisms which helped make their bows so superior. His work developed from early forms having ‘axe head’ shapes, with an extended rear lip and no facing, and ivory frogs (often subsequently replaced) lacking slides, to the fully developed modern bows with all the furnishings of slide, face, ferrule, and ebony frog. Some are highly ornate, even bejewelled, and Dodd was one of the first to use tortoiseshell for the frog. Dodd’s bows bear clear brands on the frog and stick, but this is widely imitated. He supplied many other makers and dealers, and their brands are often superimposed on his; Betts, Forster, J. & H. Banks, and Norris & Barnes marks can all be found. Both octagonal and round sticks made.

William Meredith Morris+

He was born in Stirling, died in Richmond workhouse, and was buried at Kew. He is styled ” The English Tourte,” and much of his work justifies the title. Had he lived a more virtuous life, he probably would have turned out work of uniform excellence. Many of his bows were evidently made in haste, and sold for a few shillings, to meet the exigencies of an empty cupboard and a parching thirst. His intemperate habit was the cause of many troubles to himself, and to others who interested themselves on his behalf, and he came nigh the last stage of starvation many a time. Had it not been for the kindly offices of Dr. Selle and Mr. Richard Platt, of Richmond, he would have ended his days on the roadside ; as it was, he ended them in the workhouse.

He was the pupil of his father, the Edward Dodd previously noticed, and he improved so much upon the work of his father, and upon everything else in the whole of the violin world (excepting the work of his greater contemporary, Francois Tourte), that his bows have maintained an undiminished celebrity down to our own days. His method of cutting his bows was primitive, and it has not been adopted by any great maker since his time. He cut the bow in the curved form out of the block, and dispensed with the ordinary plan of cutting it straight and bending by heat. I have seen a large number of Dodd bows, and I am convinced from a close examination of them that they have all been cut in this manner. One of the finest specimens which I have seen is now in the possession of the Rev. J. Rhys Jones, Priest-in-charge, Maesteg, Glamorganshire. It is a fine stick, with a graceful camhre and good balance. Its length is exactly 28 1/4in., and the length of the hair 25 1/8in. It is of medium weight, and very dark in colour. The face of the heel is decorated with mother-of-pearl, and the ferrules are of thick silver. Dodd’s name was stamped on all sorts of wretched nondescripts in the middle of last century, and his fame suffered considerably in consequence. But his work has suffered more than his fame, for there are hundreds of mongrel “Dodds”” about, some with genuine heels, others with genuine heads, and not a few patched up in divers manners. The owner of a genuine Dodd, of regulation length, or anything near it, and made in his best style, has a treasure that he can well be proud of.

Cecie Stainer+

Eldest son of Edward Dodd ; b. 1752, Stirling; d. Oct. 4, 1839, in Richmond Workhouse; was buried at Kew. He was first a gun-lock fitter, then a money-scale maker, and finally found his true vocation in making bows. They are made of magnificent wood and the work is so beautiful that he is known as ‘ The English Tourte”; their only defect is that they are sometimes too short. He would never take pupils, preferring to keep secret his method of cutting the wood, and refused to reveal it for a bribe of £1,000, although he was often in great poverty.

Willibald Leo Lütgendorff+

Dieser ausgezeichnete Bogenmacher, der zuerst Büchsenschlosser und dann
Goldwaagenmacher war, steht in England in gleichem Ansehen wie Fr. Tourte
in Frankreich. Seine Bögen sind ebenso gut wie die seines französischen
Rivalen, wenn er auch ihre Eleganz nicht erreicht. Er war der älteste Sohn
von Edward D. und Bruder von Thomas D. und wohnte New street, Covent
Garden. Seine Stangen haben vielleicht den einzigen Fehler, nicht immer lang
genug zu sein. Trotzdem brachte er es im Leben nicht vorwärts und starb
als 87jähriger Greis im Armenasyl (workhouse) zu Richmond. Er hatte nie
einen Schüler, da er seine Geheimnisse des Bogenmachens nicht verrathen
wollte; er soll sogar, wie behauptet wird, trotz seiner Armuth ein Angebot von
1000 Pf. Sterling für die Preisgabe seines Geheimnisses abgelehnt haben.

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