Vienna School
Matyas (Mathias) Thir
Vienna, 1736–1806
Born 1736 Bratislava (Pressburg) Slovakia, died 1806 Vienna Austria Brother of János György Thir, above. Worked briefly in Bratislava and from 1870 in Vienna. Prolific maker with large staff of workmen. Medium- to high-arched Stainer model with dark golden-brown or deep red-brown varnish. Good mater\u{2026} — John Dilworth
Auction price history
Highest auction price
| Type | Details | Sold | Price |
|---|---|---|---|
| Violin | 35.9 cm Vienna, 1806 [Possibly by] | September 2011 | £1,440 |
| Violin | 35.7 cm (the head later) [Possibly by] | July 2011 | £1,616 |
| Violin | Vienna, 1806 c. | October 2005 | £1,507 |
| Violin | Vienna, 1773 | June 2005 | £4,830 |
| Violin | Vienna, 1778 | May 2005 | £2,400 |
| Violin | Vienna, 1780 | May 2005 | £1,453 |
| Violin | 1780 c. [Probably by] | May 2005 | £3,358 |
| Violin | Vienna, 1790 c. [Attributed to] | September 2004 | £2,390 |
| Violin | 1775 | June 1998 | £2,990 |
| Violin | 1805 | December 1995 | £723 |
| Violin | 1795 | June 1995 | £1,610 |
| Violin | 1777 | November 1994 | £4,140 |
| Violin | 1792 | November 1992 | £3,520 |
| Violin | 17-- | November 1990 | £990 |
| Violin | 1775 | November 1989 | £3,300 |
| Violin | 1777 | March 1989 | £825 |
| Violin | 1799 | March 1989 | £1,650 |
| Violin | 1776 | July 1987 | £352 |
| Viola | 39.8 cm 1780 | March 1983 | £772 |
| Violin | 17-- | January 1982 | £231 |
Biographies
The overview above is drawn from the following published accounts. Read them in the original:
John Dilworth+
THIR, Mátyás (Mathias) Born 1736 Bratislava (Pressburg) Slovakia, died 1806 Vienna Austria Brother of János György Thir, above. Worked briefly in Bratislava and from 1870 in Vienna. Prolific maker with large staff of workmen. Medium- to high-arched Stainer model with dark golden-brown or deep red-brown varnish. Good materials. Usually one-piece backs and fronts. Several viola d’amores recorded. Mathias Thir / in Wien Anno 1772 Mathias Their fecit / Viennae, Anno 1782
Cecie Stainer+
Maker of good instruments in Vienna in the 18th century.
Willibald Leo Lütgendorff+
Berühmter Lauten- und Geigenmacher, der im sogen. Kärnthner-Viertel in der Himmelpfortgasse (im Bader-Haus) wohnte und am 17. März 1770 den Bürgereid ablegte. Er soll früher in Pressburg ansässig gewesen sein. Seine Geigen sind sauber nach der Form gearbeitet, haben ziemlich hohe Wölbung und sehr guten Ton; auch sein brauner Öllack ist recht gut. Zwei Geigen von ihm aus den Jahren 1774 und 1796 besitzt das Schottenstift in Wien. Eine Geige von 1772 der Mathias-Dom in Ofen. Eine Violine von 1771 der Pressburger Dom. Eine Viola d’amore von 1779 die Gesellschaft der Musikfreunde in Wien.
Henri Poidras+
Vienna circa 1780. Good make. Brown-red varnish of good quality.
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